Someplace to stash my stuff
... it seems to be money grabbing, imo
Published on November 23, 2012 By starkers In Personal Computing

Yeah, I'm pretty pissed with Acronis.  2012 isn't even over and Acronis True Image 2012 is obsolete if you run Windows 8.  It won't install on Win 8 and this page suggests it will never be updated to do so.  It's pissing me off enormously because I only purchased it 4 - 5 months ago and I've not even gotten 6 months use out of it. 

Now it wouldn't be so bad if there were plans to update it, or if it were 10 years old or something, but the year for which it was published isn't even over... and it is already obsolete for 1000's of Windows 8 users?  Moreover, a number of people who added Win 8 compatibility to the Acronis 2012 wishlist were totally ignored, so I'm thinking Acronis has an attitude problem and will likely disappear from the list of backup programs as I search for a replacement to safeguard my system.  Active Disk Image and Macrium look like 2 possible candidates.

Oh yeah, and another reason I'm looking to switch, Acronis bundles what should be standard features [by today's standards] into a 'Plus Pack' and charges extra for them.  Various forum members drew attenton to this and noted that other developers had made them all inclusive, but it seems Acronis intends not to follow suit, and for me that is an incentive to look elsewhere.


Comments (Page 2)
on Nov 23, 2012

If I went out and bought new tires and rims to fit my car, then replaced the car, I hardly think I could go back to the seller of the tires and rims and demand they make them work on my new vehicle. Why is software any different?

[thus spake Wizard]

Jafo, you gotta quit quoting Wiz, it's going to his head....hehe. 

on Nov 24, 2012

2012 was out for a year. You were late for the party.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/  Upgrade for $19.99

Exactly how cheap would you like it?

on Nov 24, 2012

Okay you lot, I get it... it's my fault Acronis 2012 doesn't work because I installed Win 8.

The point is, however, 2012 is not yet over, Windows 8 is all you can get when buying a new machine [thus making it the current OS], yet Acronis will not update True Image 2012 [the current edition] for 1000's of loyal customers who happen to be current with MS' preferred OS.... and you'll see just how preferred it is when support for previous editions ceases in around 12 to 18 months time.

Heavenfall
If the software didn't explicitly support windows 8, then what are you complaining about? This topic makes no sense.

What am I complaining about?  If I were bitching about True Image 2006 I could see your point... because that software is ancient in software terms  However, [see above], what I'm bitching about is a software that was released for 2012, yet is useless for a 2012 released OS... before 2012 is over, and Acronis has no intention of updating it.  I'd say that the topic makes perfect sense

 

2012 was out for a year. You were late for the party.

Doesn't matter if I was late to the party or not... it's STILL 2012, is it not?

Exactly how cheap would you like it?

Um..... how about zero dollars up front.  Why?  Because I would have to replace 2 pieces of software... True Image and the 2012 'Plus Pack', which bundles features [dissimilar hardware, etc] other devs have included as standard in their main backup program.  There's 100's of users bitching on the Acronis forums about that one, among other things [adding bloat without fixing known issues], and many have, or are purchasing alternative solutions to their backup needs.   I may yet do that... though I'll be keeping the $19.99 upgrade price in mind.  Guess I'll see after checking out the competition and how Win 8's backup utility performs.

on Nov 24, 2012

Mark...Mark...Mark. God love ya.......let me just say this about that.....................Ok I got nothing...what was the problem?

Oh!

starkers
I'm pretty pissed with Acronis. 2012 isn't even over and Acronis True Image 2012 is obsolete if you run Windows 8

There it is!!!

 

starkers
Okay you lot, I get it... it's my fault Acronis 2012 doesn't work because I installed Win 8.

Bingo! I just solved the problem! Thank you thank you ...I'm here all week.

on Nov 24, 2012

starkers
Windows 8 is all you can get when buying a new machine

I went to amazon.com, clicked on 'desktop computer' then clicked on the first computer in the 'best selling' category.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078RKT36/ref=s9_hps_bw_g147_ir01?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-7&pf_rd_r=1ZGPGPS77KBJ5Y7W60WY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1281815122&pf_rd_i=565098

Operating system is listed under product features, end of the first line.

on Nov 24, 2012

starkers
True Image 2012 [the current edition]

Starkers....it's not 'current' and hasn't been for some time.....my icon says 'True Image 2013' .....it's date [for me] is ....1 October 2012.... Spell checker

on Nov 24, 2012

It's like magazines - they often have a date that is far ahead of the actual date, and often you can't get, say a November magazine when it is very far into November.

on Nov 24, 2012

starkers
support for previous editions ceases in around 12 to 18 months time.

Mark, I think the world of ya mate, but you gotta lay off smoking that cabbage.  The curry powder is making you imagine shit that just ain't so.

Back to the OP. even if the upgrade is cheap, you'll be back in the same sinking boat with the next OS. ( Which some  will be quick to adopt, I am sure and just as quick in complaining about incompatibilities) Why bother? Just move on and chalk it up to a lesson learned.

P.S. There are tens of thousands of Windows 7 machines still for sale. You didn't think they all got scrapped or sent back to have Whine8 installed didja?

You built yourself a fine rig with all the latest and greatest parts and have been in the forums telling all just how fast it is, and I'm happy for you but............benchmarks don't mean squat if your software won't run on it. 

 

on Nov 24, 2012

Oh the irony of WinCustomize...

 

on Nov 24, 2012

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

FTW!  Brilliant!  


*Fuzzy now owes doc a screen, keyboard.

on Nov 24, 2012

@DOC     Thanks...I din't know that.

on Nov 24, 2012

OK... here it is:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/redobackup/files/redobackup-livecd-1.0.4.iso/download?use_mirror=iweb

This is free, and is a bare metal recovery/restore program. 237 MB in an iso.

Bare-metal restore is a technique in the field of data recovery and restoration where the backed up data is available in a form which allows one to restore a computer system from "bare metal", i.e. without any requirements as to previously installed software or operating system.

Typically, the backed up data includes the necessary operating system, applications and data components to rebuild or restore the backed up system to an entirely separate piece of hardware. In some configurations, the hardware receiving the restore needs to have an identical configuration to the hardware that was the source of the backup, although virtualization techniques and careful planning can enable a bare-metal restore to a hardware configuration different from the original.

Disk imaging applications enable bare-metal restores by storing copies (images) of the entire contents of hard disks to networked or other external storage, and then writing those images to other physical disks. The disk image application itself can include an entire operating system, bootable from a live CD or network file server, which contains all the required application code to create and restore the disk images. -Wikipedia

 

http://www.neowin.net/news/redo-backup-and-recovery-104

 

  • Easy graphical user interface boots from CD in less than a minute
  • No installation needed; runs from a CD-ROM or a USB stick
  • Saves and restores Windows and Linux machines
  • Automatically finds local network shares
  • Access your files even if you can't log in
  • Recover deleted pictures, documents, and other files
  • Internet access with a full-featured browser to download drivers
  • Live CD download size is only about 200MB

 

on Nov 24, 2012

stax77

Quoting starkers, reply 19Windows 8 is all you can get when buying a new machine

I went to amazon.com, clicked on 'desktop computer' then clicked on the first computer in the 'best selling' category.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078RKT36/ref=s9_hps_bw_g147_ir01?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-7&pf_rd_r=1ZGPGPS77KBJ5Y7W60WY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1281815122&pf_rd_i=565098

Operating system is listed under product features, end of the first line.

You lot must be behind over there in them states of tha USA... here in Oz, every major store is offering machines with Win 8 preinstalled, and nothing else.... like no Win 7 of any flavour.  Checked in with a few smaller stores and the story's the same.... NO WIN 7.  As for XP and Vista... well it's go whistle... has been for about 18 months or more.


Quoting starkers, reply 18True Image 2012 [the current edition]

Starkers....it's not 'current' and hasn't been for some time.....my icon says 'True Image 2013' .....it's date [for me] is ....1 October 2012....

Jafo, you may have TI 2013, but it is STILL 2012.... meaning my 2012 copy is current.  Just because you bought your copy early, don't mean mine is out of date. 

It won't be until 31.12.2012, if you want to get testic... er,  technical.

StevenAus
It's like magazines - they often have a date that is far ahead of the actual date, and often you can't get, say a November magazine when it is very far into November.

So wot yer sayin', then, is that I can pick up December's Playboy [for the articles] now?

Hehe, the last time I purchased a playboy was December 1980 or 81... I remember it well.  A friend told me it had a hilarious take on the 12 days of Christmas song inside and that I should read it.  Well I did... read it... well partly at least.  Yeah, I was laughing so loud the newsagent said I was disturbing his customers and asked me to leave.... meaning I needed to purchase the damned mag if'n I wanted to finish the joke.  So, I took it home and amongst the bevy of busty beauties was the uproarious '12 Days Of Christmas'... and I don't think I've laughed so hard since.

However, I yet again digress....

 

 

on Nov 24, 2012

double post

 

on Nov 24, 2012

Another free option that works with 8: http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx