Actually....maybe I should unlock the panel and take a pickie...

Same with my Level 10.  The SATA power connectors were already there, piggybacked and ready for the connection from the PSU.  The data connectors were already there as well, the HDDs  just plugged in.  However, I still needed to connect them to the motherboard with data leads.

As for the "not doing a Jafo" remark, I recall you saying something in your PC build thread about hiding a multitude of sins behind the side covers, and I just felt like having a stir, since I'm going to great lengths to make mine the tidiest, neatest build I can.  I just wish that I had begun ordering these accessories a lot earlier, but then I didn't know that much of it was available at such good prices.

Now I'm not doing a plug for a commercial site, nor will I provide a link to break WC rules... so if anyone wants to go there it's up to them to find it.  Anyway, I've been going to a site called Wish and it has all sorts of PC bits n' bobs at very nice prices... which is why I'm mentioning it, being most of us here are PC enthusiasts. There's all sorts from mobos; CPUs; GPUs. PSUs and umpteen dozens of assorted accessories to add to your PC's appearance and performance.

Now much of it is made in China [what isn't these days] but it isn't all cheap and tacky.  Some of the PCIE cards I got came from there, and they are of good quality and work well.  So, if anybody is wanting parts and accessories for their machines, it is a good place to look... though sometimes it can take a while to find what you're there for.  Even with a search you'll get various other results [it's called marketing] mixed in with the item you're interested in.

Buyer beware tho. I bought a 1 TB flash drive there. It came from China. Took a month to arrive. Once it did, I stored less that 1 GB of data on it. After sitting on my desk for oh, about a month, maybe 2, I decided to plug it into the back of the PC and leave it there, as storage.

It somehow became a read only drive. After attempting to format (and failing because it was read only), hours of googling, etc, etc. I "challenged" the owner of my local PC parts, repair, sales shop (also a good friend) to fix it. Knowing that my "challenge" would make him do his best. This is a guy who has a chain of PC shops in my region.

He returned it to me, unchanged, and said that he couldn't fix the read only attribute, but he did discover that it had hacked software on it, making it "appear" to be a 1 TB when in reality it was a 64 GB. And with the read only crap, it has on it, all that it would ever have.

Just a heads up.

Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that.  I forgot until seeing your post, that I had purchased 2 x 2TB thumb drives and neither held anywhere near the 2TB claimed, so I won't be bothering with those again... or any other thumb drives claiming to be over 256GB - 512GB.  Above that isn't trustworthy, IMO.  Having said that, there are different sellers on Wish from various countries, and apart from the 2 thumbs drives not being what I purchased, everything else thus far has been of good quality and worked as advertised.

I should mention that Wish has a refund policy that beats most.  I've not returned any faulty products personally, but both Shaunna and my sister have, with refunds being credited to their cards, without having to post the items back.  However, I did have an issue when an ordered item did not arrive within the estimated time [may have gotten lost in the post, it still hasn't 5 months later] and yet I still got a refund without issue.

Re those fake thumb drives.....yes....they probably said 'made in nigeria' on them somewhere as they're a well known scam.

Re you posting links.....that's fine.....it's all about newbies doing it because they are spammers.....that's not fine....

Sadly, there are some fake thumb drives floating around on Wish.... usually the ones claiming to be 1TB - 2TB.  As to where they originated, I don't know, but I'd advise to steer clear of them  From my experience, the majority of sellers on there are reputable and don't deal in such things.  I purchased a couple of 128GB and 256GB ones that were okay, capacity-wise, etc.

Thanks for that.  I just didn't want to be posting links and getting complaints for spamming.  Thing is, Wish sells all sorts of things: from kitchenware, clothing; decor and electronics, but my interest is in their PC parts and thought others may also be interested.  However, a particular search for 'Computer Parts' may not always reveal everything PC related.  Many a time I've had to search do a separate for 'PCIE and accessories; other times it's for fans and lighting, and then for computer cables and cabling accessories.   Even then it's not exact, with follow up searches revealing additional/new products and sellers.

I am such a naughty boy, but I'm blaming Willistuder 100% for putting NVMe M.2 SSD thoughts into my head.  It's all his fault because I'm a victim to my own weak will and being a sucker for new tech people tell me about.  Frankly, he should never have mentioned NVMe M.2s to me... AT ALL!!!!!!!!

No, not at all, cos now I've gone and busted the budget wide open with the purchase of  an Adata 512GB XPG Gammix S10 M.2 NVMe SSD.  It replaces the Crucial 525GB NGFF M.2 I was going to use, but now that one can go back in the Intel machine.

Truth is, I'd already exceeded the budget with purchases of accessories and etc.... not to mention another 16GB of RAM to boost me up to 48GB.  Couldn't afford to get another 2 x16GB, so I bought 2 x 8GB of the same Corsair 2666MHz RAM that I already have.  That should do it.... right.

BTW, Willistuder, thanks for the tip.... it will help boost overall performance.    

did you hear about an intel flaw that'll supposedly make all intel cpu from the last 10 years or so 5-30% slower when fixed in os (well.. ok.. more like the fix will slow down the os)

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-cpu-bug-kernel-memory-isolation-linux-windows-macos

heck.. i had to flash my bios last month to get the ime fix.. though i suppose you could call that an upside because i hadn't flashed that bios ever (2 odd years ish)

Yup, I've read about it here and there.  I doesn't gel to well for Intel, does it?   It seems my decision to go with an AMD Ryzen was a good one.

Still a work in progress, but here are some pics of the beastie thus far...

As you can see, I have not begun with the cabling or inserted the RAM as yet.   The cabling is waiting on bits n' pieces I ordered from Wish to tidy it up better, and the RAM is awaiting the other two sticks I ordered a few days back.  According to the tracking it should arrive tomorrow [06.01.18], and the 512GB NVMe SSD should arrive on Monday [09.01.18].

Yeah, this build is taking a while, but I've changed my mind a few times and ordered things late in the piece, and being some of it is coming from China and has to clear Customs, it'll take a while.  I keep thinking to myself that I could have organised things better, but oh well, it is what it is and I can wait.

Looks good so far. Taking time to do cable management is worth it in the long run. Looking forward to seeing the completed build.

yay.. amd bug disclosed. hide your motherboards

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/06/amd_cpu_psp_flaw/

Thanks!  And yes, cable management should never be the haphazard mess I see in a lot of peoples computers.  I've had various ones with cables hanging everywhere ask why it matters when nobody is going to see it.  I always reply 'well what about better airflow'?  Besides, it's a pride thing for me.  If I know things are a mess in there I'm not going to be happy with my work.

One of the things I've ordered to assist with cable management is a roll of that stretchy braided cable cover similar to that on PSUs.  I figured that would be useful for multiple SATA cables and the like.  There will be 22 - 24 SATA cables all up, and I want them to be tidy, not to cut off airflow too much.  There's other accessories coming as well, like self-adhesive cable clamps, heat shrink and other cable covers, extra fans and dust filters, etc.

Yeah, me too!  The hard bit is waiting for the parts, not being able to add much to it.  I saved a few things so I could work a little on it each day, but shoot, I'm running out of stuff to do.  Yup, should definitely have organised things better.

It doesn't sound that serious, though.  Apparently, an attacker would have to have physical access to the target machine; hence it doesn't concern me.  Nobody but me, and I mean NOBODY, touches my machine. 

Sometimes, though, I have to wonder about these people sitting around looking for flaws and vulnerabilities in this, that and everything.  Just about every day you can look on the internet and read that something is bad for you.  It wasn't 40 - 50 years ago, but it is now.   Then there's all the things Yahoo says we're doing wrong.  I've been peeling potatoes the same way without a problem for 50 years or so, yet according to a recent story on Yahoo, I'm doing it all wrong.  Like WTF?

As for these so-called engineers constantly finding flaws in CPUs and other PC related items, maybe there are some genuine concerns, but is there a need to alarm the public over issues that barely constitute a real threat, like this AMD one.   The Intel flaw sounds more serious, yes, but if it has existed un-patched for the last 10 or more years, and hackers, etc, hadn't discovered/exploited it before now, maybe they can't [it takes the higher expertise of an Intel engineer] and there's not a lot to worry about?

In other words, we're sent so many insignificant alarm bells/false alarms that it's hard to know what is or isn't a real threat.  And what amuses me is what food is now bad for us: one weeks it's potatoes; another it's rice; the next week it's red meat; a month later it's white meat and or fish.  Then there's all the tinned and bottled stuff.  If we took note of every food crackpot there is we'd eat eff all and die.

And the next person who tells me I'm peeling a banana all wrong, well I'm gonna shove it up his..... uh, where the sun don't shine.

it was a jokey comment. just saying there's kinda no point deciding whether to go intel/amd based on security... as they will all eventually be found to be crap.

... what do you mean peeling banana.. just wait for the banana skin wedge craze.