Someplace to stash my stuff

Damned party poopers, Microsoft has enables blocks to prevent users booting directly to the desktop, thus forcing them to boot into the much disliked Metro UI.  Furthermore, MS has blocked 3rd party start buttons and start menus, thus forcing users to return to Metro frequently to access their apps, etc.  Click here to see full story

So, it seems Microsoft is determined to foist Metro upon us, like it or not.  Well I have a message for Microsoft [as do probably many, many others] and that is my updating to Win 8 depended on being able to boot directly to the traditional desktop and having access to a start button AND start menu.  Without those abilities, I will not purchase a license... not even at $9.95. much less the touted $39.95 discounted upgrade price.  And I was so looking forward to the touted performance improvements over Win 7 with my new AMD FX8170.

Oh well, if the effwits at MS wanna go that way, the money is better in my pocket anyhow.


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on Aug 09, 2012

I don't know, Cap'n. Although I didn't read very deeply, that looks like it refers to hacks. I'd like to hear SD's comments on that. I don't think Start8 would be classified as a hack.

Either way, I'll be skipping this version. TBNT

on Aug 09, 2012

At this point I don't know why anyone would buy a windows 8 license for a PC that has win7.

on Aug 09, 2012

Heavenfall
At this point I don't know why anyone would buy a windows 8 license for a PC that has win7.

 

Me either, would be a waste of time and money.

on Aug 09, 2012

Start8 is working is fine.

on Aug 09, 2012

I don't think a windows 8 upgrade is really worth it even without the stuff they want to block.

on Aug 10, 2012

Wizard1956
I don't know, Cap'n. Although I didn't read very deeply, that looks like it refers to hacks. I'd like to hear SD's comments on that. I don't think Start8 would be classified as a hack.

The way I understand it is that MS wants everyone to be using the Metro interface regardless, and that any and all apps which restore the start button/menu and bypass the Metro UI would be considered cracks/hostile to MS' agenda.   I would hope this does not include Start8, but MS does seem pretty insistent on what it wants users to do.

Heavenfall
At this point I don't know why anyone would buy a windows 8 license for a PC that has win7.

It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but for me it would have provided performance increases with my new CPU that Win 7 does not support. That would have been enough for me, providing I could eliminate Metro entirely and use Win 8 as I do Win 7. I'm currently doing that with the Consumer Preview and I'm quite happy with the results, but sadly, they're saying that will not be possible when Win 8 is released to the public.

LightStar
Me either, would be a waste of time and money.

Tom, if you saw how fast my system is with Win 8 installed, you might just think a little differently. Moreover, I do not see that Metro mess at all and I am using Win 8 exactly as I would Win 7... just a whole lot quicker.... and it's stable to boot.  I agree with you 100% that Metro is a butt ugly abomination that should never ever be seen on a desktop, so no, if I have to be confronted with that at every boot, and I cannot use Win 8 as I do Win 7, then I will not entertain upgrading to it, either.  Besides, I will not be bullied into how I use my own PC.  I have my preferences and I want to keep them.

Island Dog
Start8 is working is fine.

For now! However, the article suggests for not much longer.  While MS has not clarified how exactly it will administer these blocks to the 'Previews' already out there, various parties believe they will be introduced with regular updates to bring them in line with MS' intentions for Win 8 and the final release.

Still, I hold out hope that somebody will come up with a foolproof way to eliminate Metro entirely.... otherwise I simply will bypass Win 8 altogether, and any subsequent OSes with the Metro UI [Unusable Interface]

on Aug 10, 2012

I think the best solution for Win7 users is voting with our wallets- just don't buy Windows 8 at any price, and hopefully devs refuse to support it.

 

Make it fail hard enough that MSFT doesn't try it again.

 

on Aug 10, 2012

Like I thought they were already digging themselves into a hole with the Windows 8 interface but now they've got themselves a diamond pickaxe and they're going straight for bedrock.

"Thatssss a very dorky user interface you have there, I bet nobody would mind if sssomething were to happen to it."

on Aug 10, 2012

I'll W8 with 8, thank you.

I don't like that one can't boot directly to the desktop. I don't like the tile interface, and I don't believe I should have to relearn how to use a computer just for the "privilege" of using that OS.

Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned MS has a boatload of fail with W8.

on Aug 10, 2012

Or is that a "bootload" of fail?  I agree.  Anything that gets you closer to "booting" W8 is a bad thing.  So we need to W8 for 9 and give W8 the boot.

on Aug 10, 2012

starkers
For now! However, the article suggests for not much longer.  While MS has not clarified how exactly it will administer these blocks to the 'Previews' already out there, various parties believe they will be introduced with regular updates to bring them in line with MS' intentions for Win 8 and the final release.

Windows 8 is already RTM.

 

Alstein
I think the best solution for Win7 users is voting with our wallets- just don't buy Windows 8 at any price, and hopefully devs refuse to support it.

It's just not gonna happen.  People are going to develop for it because Windows 8 will be shipping with millions of new PC's starting soon.  

on Aug 10, 2012

The trouble with waiting for Win 9 is that there may be just enough yuppies with a penchant for stupid who'll help make Win 8 a moderate success... meaning Win 9 will be more of the same.  Personally, I think MS is determined that we'll get AND USE Metro irrespective of what we want... given its moves to block anything that eliminates/bypasses Metro in any way.  

If anything, Win 9, 10 and 11 are likely to be even worse, with Metro and MS apps taking over more and more of the OS as time passes....

"This is Windows 11, the OS of the Future and what you need.  You may not recognize anything when comparing it to Windows of old, but you will adapt and you will like it, or else.  Moreover, it's a one size fits all solution to all platforms, Pads, phones, laptops, etc, and you will enjoy using it.  If for some reason you cannot find a feature previously found in Windows, do not be alarmed, that was intentional.  It doesn't matter that you've just paid $645.99 for your somewhat lacking and basic OS, because we've got you covered in our app store, where you'll be able to purchase such apps as Notepad, MS Paint and Windows Media Player using your [now frequently debited] credit card.

Now users, we have designed Windows 11 to totally suit ourselves, so if we have an OS phone home to alert us to a user trying to implement a traditional start button and/or start menu, we will send around a goon squad that will promptly remove his gonads.   So be warned, Windows 11 is exactly how we like it and is NOT to be tampered with, okay!  Now install it and enjoy."

Windows 8 is already RTM.

That may be so, but that does not mean said blocks cannot/will not go ahead.  If they've not already been applied to the RTM, then MS has the authority as puppet master to implement them via updates.  I too would like to think that I could use Win 8 as I wish and bypass Metro entirely, but if MS is intent on foisting Metro upon us by blocking these workarounds, which apparently it is, then blocks are what we're going to get.

on Aug 10, 2012

Island Dog
Windows 8 will be shipping with millions of new PC's starting soon.  

I predict very lackluster sales of new rigs, unless the retailers are willing and able to put Windows 7 on them on request.

That, or old stock(with 7 installed) will fly off the shelves while new units gather dust.

on Aug 10, 2012

Wizard1956

Quoting Island Dog, reply 11Windows 8 will be shipping with millions of new PC's starting soon.  

I predict very lackluster sales of new rigs, unless the retailers are willing and able to put Windows 7 on them on request.

That, or old stock(with 7 installed) will fly off the shelves while new units gather dust.

Agreed, let's not forget how many major PC sellers were still loading XP on new computers long into Vista's release. Unless MS gets really bitchy and blocks this as well this time.

Honestly I am just flabbergasted at what MS is trying to ram down our throats. I could totally understand this if they released that as the default, but why in the hell not leave a "classic desktop" option around? It boggles the mind.

on Aug 10, 2012

The OP should read as follows.

 

 

"MS Blocks Usage Of Windows 8!"