Such is life, here today gone tomorrow. Ah, what's for dinner?   

Yep, seems that way Starkers but they are going to continue to support XP for sometime, so no worries there. By my calculations this should see XP users thru' till the release of Windows 7 which is coming along and judging by a statement from Gatesy the other day it may well be with us before some of the doom merchants think. My gut feelings is that they will iron out all the nonesense that was thrown in Vista and come out with something special, in Windows 7. I hope so, mainly because I don't want to put that Vista crud back on any of my systems and just jump straight from XP to Windows 7 with a small outlay in hardware   

It's time for XP to go bye-bye.

I doubt that the June 08 end date will happen as businesses like Walmart still want XP rigs to sale...

BTW Leo Vista works just great for me.

Too many current XP users\customizers for it to go bye bye in my book. I'll keep my disc and dual boot for quite a while.   

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luckily i still have my windows XP pro with SP2

Ditto.

actually i've never had any problems with vista even before the SP1 was released..then again i run ultimate x64 and i think 90% of the problems with vista were more and likely were in x86 versions

Good to hear, kona.

I've got two Vista discs, courtesy of Microsoft, that I use as frisbies to throw about in my office and they make damn good coffee cup coasters too   

According to an aside by Steve Ballmer, mainstream XP support will end June 30 09, by which time, Vista SP2 will have been out for a while, and Windows 7 will be in public beta stage.



Kona... Wallmart might want them, but MS has decided there will be NO more XP OEM's after June 08. The ONLY rigs that'll get XP installed will be very low end laptops, most likely intended for developing countries, etc.



As do I... and I'll continue dual booting Vista Ultimate and XP Pro 'til the XP disc and its backup disintegrates.



Leo, Leo, Leo...why oh why didn't you let me know????? I'd have happily swapped you half a dozen ME frisbies for your two Vista ones.

The problem is large companies are not willing to jump the ship with it yet. Vista is a resource hog comparitively speaking. Northrop Grumman is rolling out aobut 100k computers between now and June 2009, and all are going to have XP.

The NG gestapo will not even allow the techies to evaluate it yet. So MS may not sell it, but that does not mean it is not going to continue to be distributed.

Well after Walmart tells Dell, Toshiba, Compaq, HP, eMachines and Gateway that their computers can not be sold at Walmart because They refuse to sell XP versions things will change. For example Dell has demanded MS still let them sell XP before.

Dell can demand all it likes....it's NOT a question of IF. Steve Ballmer announced XP OEM's will cease as of June 08 to all manufacturers (see my post above for the ONLY exceptions)... to make resources more readily available for Vista/the SP2 update and Windows Seven, which he hopes to have in public beta by mid to late 09.

Besides, Wallmart is only a third party player and does not carry the clout to influence squat in this instance. As can be widely read in the media, hardware manufacturers are more than welcoming the more advanced software... in fact they are heralding it by producing more powerful machines/hardware to accommodate it. For example: Intel; AMD; nVidia; Creative and many others are already geared towards higher end OSes and software.

The thing is, Kona, it's called progress... and no amount of kicking and screaming by XP lovers is going to change decisions already made by these manufacturers.

to be honest i would rather have microsoft take thier time with the new OS and make sure when it's set for public release it doesn't have a zillion and one bugs even if it takes like (it may sound stupid) 4 or 5 years...plus i wonder what it will look like...hopefully it will have vista ultimate's task bar,start globe and start menu...or atleast the task bar and start globe...