Someplace to stash my stuff
Grrrrr....
Published on December 23, 2007 By starkers In Personal Computing
Took my Vista/XP Pro dual boot rig into the shop for some general maintenance... to delete a pesky boot entry for XP Home that no longer resides on my machine. Should have been a simple and uncomplicated procedure, right?

Wrong! It came back totally screwed. At first boot, Vista booted up but was slow and unresponsive...ah, a repair install would remedy that, so I thought. Wrong again...the install disc would only go so far and I'd get a BSOD.

Orright then, I'll boot into XP and see what's what in there.... NO GO, zip, nada! The boot ini file was either corrupt or missing. OK, a repair install, perhaps... maybe (being the Vista install failed)...

Oh goody, that works... and eventually XP is up and running... trouble is, the boot entry for Vista is now gone. Ok, no problem, I'll install Vista BootPro and make Vista the default OS. Orright, why can't it find Vista??? I look in 'My Computer' and it's just not there... neither is G: drive with all my documents... nor H: with 86 gigs of music. A check in 'Device Manager' reveals that Windows cannot see the drive, even though it shows up in BIOS as being present.

Me is totally stumped... but I try everything in my (limited) experience to bring it back on line, which was no easy feat at home without any diagnostic tools of any kind. I finally found the HDD, more by accident than design.... sadly, though, the entire drive had to be reformatted for ir to show up in XP, and all on it was lost...well not quite...

I got me one of those data recovery tools (nobody told me it'd take 4 days on a 250gig HDD) and recovered pretty much everything I wanted/needed...tho Vista would still have to be re-written, which was the daunting task because the disc would only load the files before the damn blasted BSOD kicked in....

By now XP was also playing up and running like a hairy goat...suggesting a repair was insufficient and a re-write was also on the cards there. Firstly, however, it was suggested that I had a hardware issue (CPU, MOBO, RAM, etc????) and I needed to resolve that first...

After a process of elimination/trial and error, I determined that the CPU and MOBO were fine, so tried booting up on one stick of RAM... fine, I'll leave out the other 3 1 gig sticks and reinstall XP, which went perfectly/no problems. Ok, now I'll re-introduce the other RAM stick one at a time...yep, sticks 2 and 3 are fine, but stick 4 starts to smell like it's overheating within seconds, so to prevent a major catastrophe I force shut-down the rig and remove it.

Turns out a bad stick of (brand new) RAM prevented Vista from booting/being recognised, but once it was removed the clean install went ahead without issue. I'm almost back to where I was before all this began, just a bit more setting up/a few more proggies to install on each OS and I'll be right again....GRRRRRRRrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

So why didn't I take it back to the shop to get fixed...after all, it was one of them that knackered it, right??? Yep, that's the question I kept asking myself for 5 days or so... WHY OH WHY ME???? Then I pinched myself and remembered they were a staff member down and it wouldn't be looked at much before Jan 3 08. Orright, it's broke, but a broke PC is better than NO PC for somebody who's addicted to having one to play with/customize, etc.

#@*&ing puters... #@*&, #@*&, #@*&!!!!! Rant over... now I'll get back to work on it.
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on Dec 24, 2007

But I am sure you and I will continue to lean on technology and endure the love / hate relationship until the very end...


I'm sure we will... tho for me it's still more a love than a hate relationship, despite the last week being more about trial and tribulation than PC enjoyment. I learned quite a bit and feel more able to deal with certain issues myself, so all in all it was rather productive from that viewpoint.

The reason I took it into the shop in the first place was because I'm not so good at messing with the BIOS, which needed tweaking due to slower than average startups and several hardware changes... and that was achieved because she boots in half the time now.

phsa.. my internal HDD gave out years ago..and my ram.. CPU just sits there all dusty.. *recharges his Ipod while listening*** Breathe in.. breathe out.. breathe in..**** gasp" cough"choke" doh..an earplug fell out..


Yeah, I know what you mean. mrs starkers reckons she has to feed me curried cabbage daily (for the subsequent methane effect) to see if I'm still alive.


The tech screwed up my system so I did lose everything and I did go back and raised hell with them.


Yep, I can well imagine your anger cos I hate it when others mess my stuff up. That wasn't the case this time, however... unless I want to take it all the way back to the RAM manufacturer.

Also, I'm so glad that I took the RAM back to the shop for testing... within 30 seconds or so it crashed and burned with a rather loud bang... took out the dimm slots/mobo on their test bench. Could have been mine if I'd persisted to find which stick went bung, and fortunately they have a multitude of spare MOBO's from customers who left them behind after upgrades, etc.

Thing is, I'm happy with my rig as it is now.... still setting up a few things, but it's running very sweetly....

Oh and Kona... it's a very laid back kind of shop with just 3 guys working there... the owner and 2 others. More importantly, they always have the time to be polite, friendly and extremely helpful... never ever too busy to answer customer questions, etc. So I doubt very much that a computer tracks their hours/productivity, etc. There should be more stores like it, where personalised and friendly service is the norm, rather than the very rarely seen exception.
on Dec 25, 2007
I still would rather avoid shops when I know I can fix it myself...
on Dec 25, 2007
There should be more stores like it, where personalised and friendly service is the norm, rather than the very rarely seen exception.


There's a 'puter shop here like that. Called Computer Universe. Funny name for it, 'cuz it's not big at all. Great guys working there, friendly customer service. That's where I buy all my PC supplies (tho I have yet to let them work on my PC- if I can fix it myself, I will...if I can't, I'll call my buddy Joey- he knows everything about computers)......
on Dec 25, 2007
I still would rather avoid shops when I know I can fix it myself...


I generally do... fix it myself, that is, but the BIOS is something I'm not too familiar with as yet, so my rig went in for tweaks to that. Unfortunately, a stick of RAM went bung when I got it home, but that wasn't their fault... and, with a bit of trial and error, I fixed the subsequent issues myself.

tho I have yet to let them work on my PC- if I can fix it myself, I will...if I can't, I'll call my buddy Joey- he knows everything about computers)


I let these guys work on my rig because I consider them to be friends as well as great PC repairmen. They treat my family and I differently to other customers, like we're friends, too. As for labour costs, I'd ask how much and they used to say for me not to worry about it, but when I insisted it had to be worth something (I like to pay my way), it'd be "20 bucks 'll do it"... well below the going rate. I think that may be because my recommendations helped build their customer base considerably over the years.
on Dec 25, 2007
Would never let a grunt touch my pc
on Dec 25, 2007
I normally don't let any one touch my system but when it went out I had no way of checking the parts myself. Never again     
on Dec 25, 2007
I flashed my BIOS the other day. Nothing to it.
on Dec 25, 2007
I flashed my BIOS the other day. Nothing to it.


Didn't just need flashing/updating....needed some manual adjustments to improve startup & performance, etc.
on Dec 25, 2007
Didn't just need flashing/updating....needed some manual adjustments to improve startup & performance, etc.


I've been messing with BIOS settings ever since I've owned a PC. Nothing to that either. You just have to understand what your doing that's all. And if you mess up you load the defaults and off you go.
on Dec 26, 2007
And if you mess up you load the defaults and off you go.


Off I went orright... to the puter store cos the defaults wouldn't reload after I tinkered and messed up. Not to worry, tho... all is well that ends well, and I will learn more about BIOS settings now I'm delving into it a bit more now.
on Dec 26, 2007
I've been messing with BIOS settings ever since I've owned a PC. Nothing to that either. You just have to understand what your doing that's all. And if you mess up you load the defaults and off you go.


Not necessarily. As I just found out the hard way, on some laptops (Dell Inspiron 1501, notably), flashing the BIOS can mean killing your computer.

Seriously. I now have to speak to Dell about a new motherboard for a customer's computer because of a failed BIOS flash!
on Dec 26, 2007

Not necessarily. As I just found out the hard way, on some laptops (Dell Inspiron 1501, notably), flashing the BIOS can mean killing your computer.


Didn't exactly kill mine, but the bad stick of RAM wouldn't allow me to restore back to default or reload from the mobo disc... so repairing it was beyond me, and why it went to the shop. Unfortunately, the RAM did not appear to be the culprit at first, so it did not become apparent until it died completely.

All is well now, though....though they have a 3ghz Core Duo Quad and a Gigabyte mobo with on-board cooling and a heap of other extras that has me somewhat salivating at the mouth right now.

When will I ever be satisfied with what I have (PC wise)?? Probably never... not while they keep coming out with new and improved toys.
on Dec 26, 2007
I hear ya starkers.......... you know how i upgraded to vista? well i also took my old rig to a pc guy to take out the innards and install them to a nice and pretty new case, he did it, but then i was down a power splitter so i had to go home without one....... then i found out that he hadnt even connected the sound up properly, and he wouldnt lift a finger to help, so i had to find and download the motherboard manual and find out where the cables get plugged into which pin. ( i was scared stiff, i can install a modem, no worries, and throw in ram, but not this!!) anyways, i followed the manuals instructions and got my sound up and running. then i got an email from this guy saying he found the extra power splitter in my box that had my new graphics card......... (after i had purchased one on ebay......grrrr) so i told him to just keep it......... then i emailed him and asked him where does the power splitter get plugged into so i have lights for my 'power and hdd' light. no answer........ im never going back....... i might as well have just done the whole thing myself..... grrr.
on Dec 27, 2007
When will I ever be satisfied with what I have (PC wise)?? Probably never... not while they keep coming out with new and improved toys.


You'll learn to be satisfied when you end up with a budget like mine. For example in my world it usually takes saving money for a few weeks or months to buy a stick of RAM.

And by the way why are people scared to work on computers?

on Dec 27, 2007
where does the power splitter get plugged into so i have lights for my 'power and hdd' light.


It's not a "power splitter", it's the connectors (6 to 10 of them) connected to the inside front of your case. They plug into MB Front Panel:



Either read the manual for pin placement or the board itself. If you have it on the right pins, but still no lights, reverse the plug.

Kona, I'm going to pretend you're not in this thread any longer........
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