Someplace to stash my stuff
Grrrrr....
Published on December 23, 2007 By starkers In Personal Computing
Took my Vista/XP Pro dual boot rig into the shop for some general maintenance... to delete a pesky boot entry for XP Home that no longer resides on my machine. Should have been a simple and uncomplicated procedure, right?

Wrong! It came back totally screwed. At first boot, Vista booted up but was slow and unresponsive...ah, a repair install would remedy that, so I thought. Wrong again...the install disc would only go so far and I'd get a BSOD.

Orright then, I'll boot into XP and see what's what in there.... NO GO, zip, nada! The boot ini file was either corrupt or missing. OK, a repair install, perhaps... maybe (being the Vista install failed)...

Oh goody, that works... and eventually XP is up and running... trouble is, the boot entry for Vista is now gone. Ok, no problem, I'll install Vista BootPro and make Vista the default OS. Orright, why can't it find Vista??? I look in 'My Computer' and it's just not there... neither is G: drive with all my documents... nor H: with 86 gigs of music. A check in 'Device Manager' reveals that Windows cannot see the drive, even though it shows up in BIOS as being present.

Me is totally stumped... but I try everything in my (limited) experience to bring it back on line, which was no easy feat at home without any diagnostic tools of any kind. I finally found the HDD, more by accident than design.... sadly, though, the entire drive had to be reformatted for ir to show up in XP, and all on it was lost...well not quite...

I got me one of those data recovery tools (nobody told me it'd take 4 days on a 250gig HDD) and recovered pretty much everything I wanted/needed...tho Vista would still have to be re-written, which was the daunting task because the disc would only load the files before the damn blasted BSOD kicked in....

By now XP was also playing up and running like a hairy goat...suggesting a repair was insufficient and a re-write was also on the cards there. Firstly, however, it was suggested that I had a hardware issue (CPU, MOBO, RAM, etc????) and I needed to resolve that first...

After a process of elimination/trial and error, I determined that the CPU and MOBO were fine, so tried booting up on one stick of RAM... fine, I'll leave out the other 3 1 gig sticks and reinstall XP, which went perfectly/no problems. Ok, now I'll re-introduce the other RAM stick one at a time...yep, sticks 2 and 3 are fine, but stick 4 starts to smell like it's overheating within seconds, so to prevent a major catastrophe I force shut-down the rig and remove it.

Turns out a bad stick of (brand new) RAM prevented Vista from booting/being recognised, but once it was removed the clean install went ahead without issue. I'm almost back to where I was before all this began, just a bit more setting up/a few more proggies to install on each OS and I'll be right again....GRRRRRRRrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

So why didn't I take it back to the shop to get fixed...after all, it was one of them that knackered it, right??? Yep, that's the question I kept asking myself for 5 days or so... WHY OH WHY ME???? Then I pinched myself and remembered they were a staff member down and it wouldn't be looked at much before Jan 3 08. Orright, it's broke, but a broke PC is better than NO PC for somebody who's addicted to having one to play with/customize, etc.

#@*&ing puters... #@*&, #@*&, #@*&!!!!! Rant over... now I'll get back to work on it.
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on Dec 23, 2007
There is always RAID or you could buy one of those $10,000 drive arrays.

Although those things break also so I guess the only thing that works is back to pencil and paper but then the pencil could break...

Oh well...I guess no matter what we use nothing is for certain...I think it is a conspiracy!

Oh yes the backup idea - yes a good idea - but then you could also be backing up the very problems you are trying to resolve...

Okay technology sucks!
on Dec 23, 2007
That's four words....


Two words:-

f. o.


Er.... 2 letters ....with punctuation ..


'Tis getting bad around here... er, woeful when ones thread gets hijacked by 2 admins who are going at it hammer and tong. To be frank, I'd prefer it if you two went someplace else if you're going to continue with yer Oz/Pom pissing competition.

Oh...and if you's are thinking about exiling somebody... Frank said that.


Okay technology sucks!


So does my memory these days... which is why I depend on technology to do it for me... and why I'm stuffed when technology fails.
on Dec 23, 2007
Not only should you back up, you should also mirror the back up drive if possible. This is dependant upon how important your data is to you.

Remember there are 2 kinds of drives, ones that have gone bad and ones that are going to go bad.
All hard drives eventually die.
on Dec 23, 2007

'Tis getting bad around here... er, woeful when ones thread gets hijacked by 2 admins who are going at it hammer and tong. To be frank, I'd prefer it if you two went someplace else if you're going to continue with yer Oz/Pom pissing competition.

We'd always win....just challenge 'em to a round of cricket...give 'em 9 wickets head start....

I've always maintained that if you want things screwed up good and proper you leave it to the experts.  Amateurs, learners and the pathologically incompetent just don't have the nads to do it REALLY well ....

on Dec 23, 2007

'Tis getting bad around here... er, woeful when ones thread gets hijacked by 2 admins who are going at it hammer and tong. To be frank, I'd prefer it if you two went someplace else if you're going to continue with yer Oz/Pom pissing competition.

No competition at all. There's no point in trying to compete with a barbarian, they are just to dense and inbred. Bottom of the world is also bottom of the gene pool.

Pom...    You Aussies really love that word. Well duh! It is actually pohm (prisoner of Her Majesty) and refers to criminals, deported and shipped to Australia. Ironic really. Just proves how arse-upwards Australians are   

 

on Dec 24, 2007
Starkers: Why would you let someone else work on your machine?
on Dec 24, 2007
Starkers: Why would you let someone else work on your machine?


What are we to do with you?????????

but stick 4 starts to smell like it's overheating within seconds,


There's five days out of your life you'll never get back

Next time, hook the HD's to another XP or Visa machine and burn the files you want to save to a CD. Then format the drive....takes minutes.

....then ask Santa for a backup proggie.

If that "4th" stick overheats in any slot, it's the stick. If it only overheats in the "4th" slot, your MB is bad.

Merry Christmas
on Dec 24, 2007
I was just curious Yrag.
on Dec 24, 2007
Reminds me of an older gentleman whom I work with. He ask what I was going to do over the weekend,and I told him I was going to work on some computers. He made an awful face like he had a sour stomach, and said that he wished "all them things (computers) would just break!!   
on Dec 24, 2007
Pom... You Aussies really love that word. Well duh! It is actually pohm (prisoner of Her Majesty) and refers to criminals, deported and shipped to Australia.


Nah, yer got that wrong... it's POME... Prisoner Of Mother England. That would be those suckers who didn't have the good sense to get out while the gitting wos good.

Starkers: Why would you let someone else work on your machine?


Cos I trust these guys... never done me wrong before... not this time neither. It were the RAM.

If that "4th" stick overheats in any slot, it's the stick. If it only overheats in the "4th" slot, your MB is bad.


Definitely the RAM is/was bad...took it back to the shop for testing...went 100% gut up only 5 mins in. Oh well, the replacement was immediate...and I have Nero Backup tools so I'll be fine.

Haven't been to bed since Saturday so I sleep now.
on Dec 24, 2007
Bet you a computer tracks his hours worked and prints his paycheck...
on Dec 24, 2007
So does my memory these days... which is why I depend on technology to do it for me... and why I'm stuffed when technology fails.


Starkers you and I are in the same boat on this - and I too have the same reaction when my "external brain" fails me.

But I am sure you and I will continue to lean on technology and endure the love / hate relationship until the very end...
on Dec 24, 2007
phsa.. my internal HDD gave out years ago..and my ram.. CPU just sits there all dusty.. *recharges his Ipod while listening*** Breathe in.. breathe out.. breathe in..**** gasp" cough"choke" doh..an earplug fell out..

on Dec 24, 2007
I feel ya. I had some thing like what you had but w/o any VIsta stuff (Still do not have it), but my system just shut down one day and I also took it in to a local shop to get tested to see what was wrong. First it was my Power Supply so I put in a new one, next the video card went, replaced that, then the sound card went, then the MB went, after replacing it half (one stick) of my memory went. Now they didn't go all at once but one at a time with in about a week. The good part about it was I got to upgrade my system. The tech screwed up my system so I did lose everything and I did go back and raised hell with them.   
on Dec 24, 2007
Bushman - don't know for sure but I have had what you had happen occur to me. When the power supply goes out it sends too much voltage or a nice spike throughout your entire system and then the weakest components go first but not all at once. Sometimes it can take weeks to happen but usually it can be traced back to the power supply failure.

Although none of this makes you feel any better just thought I would throw in some of my experiences.
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