Someplace to stash my stuff
why does MS feel it necessary to sneak shit in during the middle of the night
Published on September 5, 2018 By starkers In Personal Computing

I was so pleased with myself once I had gotten my Cosmos II Big Beastie all set up with Win 10 and all of my most used programs.  It was a long time coming, what with mobo issues and the like, and it was fantastic to sit here in front of the 35" ultra wide screen connected to it....UNTIL MS decided to sneak in an update around 3.00 AM and borked quite a bit of stuff.

I know it was around 3.00AM cos I walked past the machine to go to the toilet at 3.06 AM and noticed it was on and downloading/installing updates.  Anyway, I went back to bed not thinking much more of it... until I couldn't connect to the internet at around 7.00 AM.  Yup, the update borked my wi-fi adapter, along with my sound card and related software.  Several of my programs just didn't work anymore.... and worse still, some were gone.  That's right, GONE.

My Wise Care 360 was gone; my Everything search program was gone; my RightClick Enhance was gone; as was my Winstep Xtreme and some of my ObjectDesktop apps, such as Start 10; WB and Iconpackager.  I've been able to reinstall all of them, but that's not the point.  Like what fechen right has MS to mess with my PC and the programs I want to install?

Some of the borked programs were uninstalled and reinstalled after a clean up with Wise Care 360 and most worked okay, but some didn't and I'm totally pissed.  A system restore to before the update didn't work... it failed twice, so I can't resolve the issues that way.   Worse still, my previously activated version of Windows was de-activated and I can't get my product key to work to activate it.

I have the option of doing a system reset, but I'm not too confident it will resolve all the issues.  Then there's the option of doing a clean install to completely remove any crap left behind.  Sadly, that would mean having to reload all my programs again becauses I didn't quite get around to installing Acronis to do a complete backup. 

My main concern, however, is what if I can't reactivate Windows with my current [and previously valid] product key because MS has somehow deemed it invalid  it.?  I've spent quite a few hours trying to resolve the everything, and I mostly have,  but I can't find a way to call MS like we used to be able to with licensing issues.  I need to speak with somebody at MS to find out what is going on with my copy of Windows and product key.

Anyhow, if anyone has any ideas as to how best to proceed, please let me know.  I can still run the OS without activation but I'd rather have things all shipshape and proper like.

TIA, Mark.


Comments (Page 2)
on Sep 07, 2018

If you are now 'happy' with the Win 10 ...spend ALL of your time and effort investigating ways to lock it down and prevent all further updates.

Nothing should EVER be 'fixed' when it ain't broke.

Sadly, MS doesn't understand the concept.

on Sep 07, 2018

JcRabbit

I wasted HOURS trying EVERYTHING to solve the problem, all of Microsoft's recommended solutions (restarting and resetting the update services, cleaning update caches, yada, yada, yada) and then some, to no avail. NOTHING solved the problem.

Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again....

on Sep 07, 2018

Quoting JcRabbit,

I wasted HOURS trying EVERYTHING to solve the problem, all of Microsoft's recommended solutions (restarting and resetting the update services, cleaning update caches, yada, yada, yada) and then some, to no avail. NOTHING solved the problem.



Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again....

 

LMAO!  

on Sep 07, 2018


If you are now 'happy' with the Win 10 .

Nope, not happy with Win 10.  Just a tad happier with it than I was after the update borking.   I very nearly went back to a copy of Win 8.1 that I had reserved for another machine I have waiting in the wings, but seeing as 10 is behaving better at the moment I'll persist with it.

As for locking the system down, apparently WinAero has a program to do that, I just need to go find and install it, cos if I had to go through all that pain and frustration again, I'd grab Win 10 by the codes and rip 'em out.  Hehe.  [Cods?  Think codpiece, like male ballet dancers wear to protect/cover the family jewels]

 

The NOT fixing what ain't broke is a concept completely alien to MS.  I can understand patches to protect against the new 'uglies' that keep coming out, , but 'updated drivers' that actually break the intended devices, then that's another thing entirely.  All my add-in devices [PCIEs, etc] were working perfectly well until MS came along and MSed them up [pun intended].

Also, me thinks there's a lot of bloatware in 10, so-called new features that most/many never use.  I certainly don't use them and would prefer my copy of 10 to be stripped back to the days of Win 7/8.1, minus those confounded apps.


Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again.

If only it were that easy.  When MS breaks something they don't do half a job about it.  No, it's the Full Monty and then some.

on Sep 08, 2018

Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again....

LOL!!!!

I don't think Starkers knows the joke, Jafo.

on Sep 08, 2018

I'm sure he knows the it crowd...just anoyed with ms all the  same 

 

on Sep 08, 2018

JcRabbit


Quoting Jafo,
Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again....



LOL!!!!

I don't think Starkers knows the joke, Jafo.

 Oh yeah, I know it alright.  I may be here in Oz these days, but I still watch a lot of UK comedy and other TV series, including repeats of the IT crowd when they're on.

on Sep 08, 2018

I keep telling you Mark....

MS doesn't like you.

on Sep 08, 2018

DrJBHL

I keep telling you Mark....

MS doesn't like you.

Feelings mutual.  And I'm not alone.   Microsoft has become the new age Apple, not very well liked, and Apple is laughing all the way to the bank.  Yeah, the salesman I deal with at our local JB Hi.fi was telling me that sales on Apple computers have increased over the last year or so by 38% in his store alone.  Imagine that kind of figure worldwide because MS has alienated so many of its former customers.

Oh, and on another note, [and this is not a political statement but a social comment] I read earlier that Trump will make Apple tax exempt if they move their manufacturing base from China back to the US.  That is wrong on so many levels.  For a start, it sets a precedent for other massive US corporations to want/get the same, thus leaving the everyday bloke to pay the lion's share of US taxes.  Like I said before, it IS just SO wrong.

Anyway, I digress.  I was hoping that MS would become a better company for its users when Satya Nadella took over from Steve Ballmer as CEO.   How sadly disappointed I am.  Much of what has transpired since he took over is nothing short of abominable.... and for mine, criminal.  The forcing of Win 10 down peoples throats who clearly didn't want it should have been prosecuted on a mass scale.   And now we're getting forced updates that can often fech up users machines.

If I were to charge MS $25.00 an hour for the time I've spent fixing what it feched, they'd owe me around 350 - 400 bucks... plus $500 for pain and suffering and 20 bucks for the pain meds I needed to take for the damned headache they caused me.