Someplace to stash my stuff
went and got me a SSD
Published on May 26, 2011 By starkers In Personal Computing

I recently had to migrate my OS from one HDD to another due to the old one pretty much dying of old age [was probably close to 6 y/o], and now the drive I migrated to is playing up.  The thing is, this newer drive isn't that old... probably 16 months and just out of warranty, so it is annoying.  A lot of the time I can hear it thrashing and making unhealthy sounds, so I ducked out today and bought myself a 120gb OCZ Vertex 2 to house my main OS, which is Win 7 Home Premium x64.

Given the prices at local PC stores, I think that I got it at a pretty good price.... $229.00 AUD from an online trader who doesn't mind pickups.  Yeah, I just rocked up at the warehouse, submitted my order via one of their terminals, and 5 minutes later I had the product in my hand.  It was a bit more than I wanted to spend, but I'm tired of the mechanical drives going guts up and hope this 'no moving parts' SSD is more durable

I haven't installed it as yet, being I have a few preliminaries to attend to first, but I shall be shutting down in the next few minutes to bung it in my tower.  I plan to use Acronis to clone the OS over to its new home so I don't have to rewrite Windows or reinstall all my apps.  Hopefully, it all goes smoothly and I save myself the time and pain of having to reinstall everything from scratch.

Anyhow, I'll post later to say how it all went. 

 


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on May 27, 2011

CharlesCS
. I do get a hard drive failure msg every time I restart the PC,

Must be an HP.

on May 27, 2011

If you hear a 'clunkedy clunk' from the SSD take a look at your hands...they'll be empty - you just dropped it...

Not a chance... it is firmly afixed to the drive bay inside my rig... and that can't fall any farther [unless we have an earthquake] cos it's already on the ground.  I gotta say, though, these SSD's are diddy little things.  Having never seen one before, I thought it would be bigger. Oh well, so long as it does the job.

DrJBHL
You might want to try that on the old disk anyway...

Nah, I think it's cactus.... cactus being an Oz term for f****d.  It no longer shows up in the BIOS so I'm fairly confident that it is d - e - a - d.... dead. Never mind, I'm pretty much finished installing everything now, and any important data [music, video, documents, etc] was backed up to another drive so I've lost nothing but my time, really.   Yes, I got frustrated when things didn't go to plan, and yes, I let fly a few cuss words here and there.... orright, A LOT of cuss words here and there, but I'm as happy as a hog in muck right now, with my rig running the best it ever has.

Dr Guy
Quoting CharlesCS,
reply 25
. I do get a hard drive failure msg every time I restart the PC,

Must be an HP.

Aye.... HP shood ought ter be made t' walk tha plank.... AARRGGHHHH!!!!!

on May 27, 2011

starkers
And no, it had nothing to do with yrag's considered opinion that you could fuck up anything PC.... and haven't... as yet.

Pretty sure he's right....though I do actually build my own machines...

Re its size...yes it does look somewhat small and useless .... but that's the way computers go.....except Graphic cards.   They just get bigger and bigger....

on May 27, 2011

how long is a piece of string?

on May 27, 2011

starkers
Aye.... HP shood ought ter be made t' walk tha plank..

Hey.........my lappys an HP and its working great. My last tower was an HP Pavilion and that one worked great to. Too bad it had Vista on it though.. The only other one I had was an eMachine. That worked pretty good. A few people I knew had Gateways and they sucked plus Dells. They weren't too bad but knock wood never had issues with anything HP.

on May 28, 2011

Pretty sure he's right....though I do actually build my own machines..

Same here... if something can go wrong, I generally find a way to make it happen.  However, I also build my own machines.... and for the most part they go pretty good... I've just been a bit unlucky with hard drives, that's all... though I did get one bit of luck.  My PC bloke rang to tell me that my Hitachi drive can be exchanged.  Apparently it belongs to a batch that was recalled due to a faulty mechanism.

I haven't been around computers as long as many around here, but I have picked quite a few tips and ideas from various folk who have shared their experiences with the rest of us... and I cannot leave yrag out of that group of people.  I have probably learned more about PC's from his responses to folk here [myself included] than anywhere else.

Re its size...yes it does look somewhat small and useless .... but that's the way computers go.....except Graphic cards. They just get bigger and bigger...

That's for sure. If my drive bays were facing front to rear, instead of left to right, my GTX260 wouldn't fit.  Besides, I like the side-on mounting of drives because it makes for a tidier case, with much of the wiring/cabling hidden from view between the drive bay and the right side, looking from front to back. 

As for the SSD, bigger isn't always best and I can't help but be impressed with the performance of this baby.  Startups and shutdowns are lightening fast, as are program installations and operations, not to mention data transfers, etc.  I use TeraCopy to move and copy data, and wow, speeds up to 80 plus kbs... the best I saw before was in the mid to high 30's, sometimes low 40's.

MadDeez
how long is a piece of string?

Now you shouldn't be asking that here.  There'll be all sorts of answers, many exaggerated, and stringis envy will occur.

Quoting starkers,
reply 32
Aye.... HP shood ought ter be made t' walk tha plank..

Hey.........my lappys an HP and its working great

Okay, then, yours can stay aboard... if'n it be'aves itself.  Tha first sigh o' mutiny frum it, 'owever, an' it'll be keel'auled afore us makes it walk tha plank... orright?

on May 31, 2011

Hey.........my lappys an HP and its working great.

Uvah - when they work, they are fine.  It is just the quirks they have (like the HD failing thing).  I once had one that the message kept coming up for years!  The HD never failed (I of course got scared and moved my data off, but the computer still worked until it just got too dang slow).

on May 31, 2011

.....they're way too big.  {there isn't a SSD made that'd hold all my FSX stuff let alone the other games].

Well, if you have a little more that 240000$ and a PCI express 16x slot free, you can always try the io-drive octal ( http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodriveoctal/?tab=photos )... 5.12TB of capacity, read at 6.0 GB/s, write at 4.4 GB/s... beware that i wrote GB and not Gb... by example the 6.0 GB/s is in fact 48 Gb/s, almost 5 time faster that the new thunderbolt interface... with 6 drive, read speed can reach 1TB/s ( 8Tb/s ), speed that no hard drive can reach...

Well, this type of SSD is not for the general public but for data center, same with high buying price, it allow to spare a lot of money each year, mainly on the side of electric power... a data center with 792 server/55440 hard disk/396 SAN controllers/132 rack/1584 DDR Infinyband link can be replaced with 220 server/6 rack/448 DDR Infiniband link...

Point is that SSD for home user is somehow limited today but what we see in the professional sector today can become tomorrow the norm for home desktop...

on May 31, 2011

Thoumsin....yep, there's stuff around that is seriously quick...but also seriously priced...

The actual limiter for FSX isn't drive speed...not even how big your GPU might be....but instead it's the CPU.

My 'current' FSX install [heavily edited] is 79gig, 170,000 files.

The most recent 'removals' to keep it 'small' are 28gig, 56,000 files.

The backup install [incremental] shows....109gig, 219,000 files. 

Stuff not used... 50gig, 134,000 files.

Total comes out as 256gig, or 579,000 files .... so there's probably actually a SSD that'd fit 'em....but there's no real point....

on Jun 22, 2011

Based on this thread I picked up an SSD and I am fairly blown away. It's like that feeling you got when you install a fresh OS. Only double it, if you're doing a fresh OS on an SSD.

Time to turn my old drives into ze raid.

on Jun 22, 2011

I love my 180gb OCZ SSD as an OS boot drive   But I don't find it that much quicker on startup, only the shutdown seems faster (and I mean super speedy - only about 5 seconds!)

on Jun 22, 2011

Heavenfall
Time to turn my old drives into ze raid.

I've been thinking about doing that, though I'd probably get a couple of extra externals for backing up... in the event that if one goes the data on all of them goes.

Anyhow, I have 3 regular drives in my box and it's a thought... would speed up data transfers, etc.

on Jun 22, 2011

I'm not really seeing much improvement in boot-up either (maybe 5 seconds off ~20 seconds). More program starts and handling files, that's where I'm noticing a major improvement. Heck, even loading internet pages seem to go quicker, although that could just be imagination (it goes to ram, right?).

on Jun 23, 2011

Heavenfall
I'm not really seeing much improvement in boot-up either (maybe 5 seconds off ~20 seconds).

Win 7 on a regular HDD can take anywhere from  35 - 60 seconds to boot up, give or take, so if you're seeing boot times of 20 seconds or under with a SSD then you're laughing.  That is a significant improvement.  From the time I hit the power button to a usable desktop in Win 7, about 22 - 25 seconds... from the posting beep, about 17 - 18 seconds, give or take.

Heavenfall
More program starts and handling files, that's where I'm noticing a major improvement

Yes, definitely, improved file handling and quicker response time for program loads, etc. I have a dual boot machine with Vista Home Premium x64 on a regular HDD, and I notice a distinct difference in speed between the two, whereas previously [to the SSD] there was little or no difference.

As for web pages loading faster, um, dunno about that one.  Yes, the browser of choice would have quicker response times on a SSD, as do all programs.... and that is probably where you are seeing the improvement.  Other than that, your ISP is generously chucking some extra speed your way.

on Jul 15, 2011

ocz vertex right up to the current models have know issues.

SSD drives should however last longer than mechanical drives and have the added benefit that if they die generally the cells still retain data. Like mechanical drives ssd drives will throughout their life write out bad cells.

The mechanical drive has a chance of working for 20yrs if your really lucky, an SSD will pretty much reach its read or write limit and die. SSD tech is more fallible than mechanical in theory. So plan to replace your SSD!!!! Raid 1 anyone?

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