Someplace to stash my stuff
in the Coolermaster Cosmos II
Published on December 1, 2017 By starkers In Personal Computing

Couldn't wait 'til after Christmas, which apart from Christmas Dinner and Christmas Pud is just another day for me these days. We'll just have a quiet dinner and day here among ourselves, and maybe visit or get a visit from my sister.  Other than that it'll be fairly non-eventful, which suits me fine.

So anyway, I've been wanting to rebuild for a while now, and earlier this evening I decided to bite the bullet and order the parts I want:

Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VI/AMD Ryzen 1700 bundle with Wraith Spire cooler.

32Gb Kit of G-Skill RipJaws DDR$ 3000 RAM.

ASUS AMD Raedon RX 570 Strix OC 4Gb graphics card.

Sound Blaster ZxR sound card.

It all came to more than I was originally going to spend, but I poached the sound card from the Coolermaster Cosmos II rig to go into my Thermaltake Level 10 machine and decided upon the Soundblaster ZxR to replace it and up the ante with something that has more grunt.

I have all the other parts I require, PSU, SSDs, HDDs, etc.... plus a few PCIE expansion cards to add other options, such as a HD video capture card, additional SATA ports and USB 3/3.1 ports.

When the parts arrive I'll take pics and do a more comprehensive list, and once I've completed the rebuild some before and after pics.


Comments (Page 2)
on Dec 05, 2017

choiminzi

Had it built 7 years ago and it suits me just fine. Don't need anything else.


My AMD FX 8350 4.0Ghz Black Edition; ASUS ROG Crosshair Hero V; 32Gb G-skill DDR3 2400Ghz RAM in a Thermaltake Level 10 case is around 7 years old now, and it is still going strong overclocked a 4. 4ghz with just Thermaltake air cooling.

I didn't need anything else, either, but I've had the building bug for some time and the desire for new equipment was too hard to resist.  A couple of years later I ended up putting an i7 4970K on an ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero motherboard with 32Gb of G-Skill DDR3 2400Ghz Ram and an ASUS ROG MARS 760 Dual graphics card.  I didn't need it, but it sure felt good building a new PC in the Coolermaster Cosmos II.... the case I'll be using to build my new AMD based Ryzen 7 1700 in..  The Intel gear will be going into a Thermaltake Chaser full tower when I've finished the new build.

After that, no more building PCs for me.  I want to focus on other things financially, to take on less physically demanding projects... given the weight of these things once I'm done with them.  I'm thinking perhaps a bit of amateur photography and maybe some bird watching.... which may or may not include the feathered variety as well.

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on Dec 05, 2017

BuckStrider


Quoting starkers,


Anyway, I went to another site and found another 32Gb G-Skill Ripjaws 4 set, but instead it's 2800Ghz.  Oh well, it's the next best thing [unless there's 2900Mhz] and a few dollars [$8.00] less.

 

 

I wouldn't worry so much about RAM clock speeds. I have 32GB of DDR4 Ripjaws (2x16GB...2666Ghz) and it runs perfectly fine.

Oh yeah, thinking about DDR4 RAM prices, I'm still wondering why it's cheaper to buy 4 x 8Gb sticks than it is to buy 2 x 16Gb sticks.  Just about every online store I've checked here in Oz is selling the 2 x 16Gb for anything up to 60 - 70 bucks more than the 4 x 8Gb option.... same brand, same clock speeds, same values.  Like why?  Is it because 16Gb sticks are new and 8Gb sticks are now 'old hat'?

I would have preferred the 2 x 16Gb option because I could have added another 2 sticks further down the track to upgrade to 64GB, but the additional cost overall was going to be in the vicinity of $150, and I'd already gone over budget.  Oh, and the Aussie taxman certainly knows how to get in for his chop and then some.  Bloke at my local PC store told me that we're paying up to 45% tax on some electronics and PC components.

Perhaps that's another reason why I'm stopping building computers.... I'm tired of paying big bucks to the greedy taxman for the privilege.

on Dec 05, 2017

Oh, and Jim, that's a nice looking case you're sporting there for your Ryzen Build.  Looks as if it has plenty of room for components and some left over for expansion.... PCIe and etc.  I have quite a few PCIe expansion cards to go into this new build, but with only 6 PCIe slots on the mobo, I've invested in some PCIe riser cards to add several more slots. 

The trick will be placing them in the case to be neat, tidy and efficient.  The case has 10 expansion slots all up, but not all cards will need external access, and those will be placed on a metal plate I'll make up to stop them moving around inside when everything's closed up.

on Dec 05, 2017

starkers

I'm still wondering why it's cheaper to buy 4 x 8Gb sticks than it is to buy 2 x 16Gb sticks. 

4x8 typically maxes out a mobo....2x16 leaves 2 more banks [typically]...so there's a premium driven by upgrade potential...

on Dec 05, 2017

Funny thing is, I just talked to my local PC shop owner yesterday, and it seems it's cheaper to buy an 8 Gig stick of DDR4, than to buy 2x4 GB sticks. Therefore, he only carries 8 GB sticks.

 

The mobo I'm about to build on has 8 slots, 4 on either side of the cpu socket. Don't guess I need to use them all.

 

It'll handle 16 GB sticks x 8. I don't think I'll need 128 GB of ram.

 

on Dec 05, 2017



Quoting starkers,

I'm still wondering why it's cheaper to buy 4 x 8Gb sticks than it is to buy 2 x 16Gb sticks. 



4x8 typically maxes out a mobo....2x16 leaves 2 more banks [typically]...so there's a premium driven by upgrade potential...

That may be so, but for mine it's still slimy and dishonest.  Sadly, there's little to no honesty or transparency in business anymore, just dirty tricks, with respect for consumers seriously on the decline.

RedneckDude

Funny thing is, I just talked to my local PC shop owner yesterday, and it seems it's cheaper to buy an 8 Gig stick of DDR4, than to buy 2x4 GB sticks. Therefore, he only carries 8 GB sticks.

Now the opposite is true here:  where 4 x4Gb typically maxes out a board and 2 x 8Gb typically populates only 2 slots.  No wonder consumer confidence/trust in business is on the decline.  It's a tipsy topsy world, price-wise and businesses seem to charge what they want when they want, which is why I blacklist those companies I feel are profiteering through artificial inflation, etc.

It's like the company I ordered the first set of RAM from.  It's not that it could not provide the product I ordered.  No, some twit put the wrong price on it and the product was temporarily removed from sale so it could be relisted at a higher price.  Australian consumer law states that a company must sell its products at the advertised price, whether it be correct or not.  That is not the consumer's responsibility. 

Anyway, because the company blatantly removed the item after I placed and paid for my order at the advertised price, then reposted later it at a higher price,  I made a formal complaint with Australia's consumer watchdog, which has responded positively to my complaint and it appears action will be taken because the company acted unlawfully.  So now this company is looking at the prospect of thousands in fines because it tried to save a couple of hundred bucks illegally  

Suck eggs mothers.....   Don't fech with me cos I fech back.  

on Dec 05, 2017

Ram pricing is one of those particularly seasonal fluctuation things....like petrol.

Just one earthquake in Taiwan and all hell breaks loose.

I remember paying $256 for a 256 meg stick and having the shop ask me if they could have it back for another build...and I'd get it a new one in a few weeks time...and they'd pay $500....but I needed it then, not later...

on Dec 06, 2017


Ram pricing is one of those particularly seasonal fluctuation things....like petrol.

Just one earthquake in Taiwan and all hell breaks loose.

Yes, that was like the hard drive market after the Thailand floods a few years back.  That I can understand.  What I don't like and can not tolerate is when prices are inflated artificially simply to profiteer.... and charging $70 - $80 extra for 2 less units of RAM but the exact same brand and values is artificial and daylight fechen robbery.  In essence, except for the actual chips, there's less material used to make up 2 x16Gb sticks... hence they should be priced to reflect that, but no, we're only buying 2 sticks [not 4 x 8Gb] so we're going to pay for it.

Like I said, consumers are losing confidence and respect in [online and bricks n' mortar] retailers over these slimy practices, yet they continue because that's how business is 'done' nowadays.  If I believe a business has artificially inflated a product to maximise profits, then I will boycott that product and business.... and I'm not the only one.

You'd think big businesses would learn from the age old principle that it is easier to get a dollar from a million people than it is to get a million dollars from just a few.... but again no, the drive to so-say maintain high profits remains, regardless of how many consumers leave those over-inflated products on the shelf out of principle and disgust. 

Sadly, people with more money than sense, absolutely no indignation or anger over slimy retail tactics, keep these businesses going through continuing to purchase products at artificially induced prices.  Things would be a whole lot better on the retail landscape if people refused to buy these products.  Yet again no!  It's too hard to stand up for something and be counted.  'They're too powerful and it's too hard", so instead too many consumers cop it sweet and lay down to get mounted..  Yup big business, particularly people like Jerry Harvey of Harvey Norman, has effectively developed strategies to 'mount' consumers over the last century or so, which goes to show just how pathetic much of the buying public is.... rolling over and just taking it.

*RANT off* .... for now.      

 

 

on Dec 13, 2017

Not happy.... AGAIN!!!!

My order for the mobo, CPU and graphics card has been help up for two weeks now, and no word as to why until I messaged the seller today.  After my third query I was advised that the graphics card is on a long back-order and will not become available until late January 2018.

I have since modified my order to purchase another ASUS graphics card with similar specs for 40 bucks more.  With a bit of luck there will be no further delay and I'll get my components by Monday next week at the latest.

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