Someplace to stash my stuff
these backdoor updates via scheduled maintenance are really pissing me off.
Published on November 8, 2016 By starkers In Personal Computing

Just when I thought I'd overcome the keyboard and mouse issues that came with Windows Update, Microsux goes a messes thing up again... and not through regular Windows Update... this time.

Last night I was working on some video conversions when all of a sudden my machine BEGINS TO REBOOT: ''Working on Updates.  Do Not Turn Off Your Machine''

Like WTF? Windows Update is disabled.  No, it was done through Scheduled Maintenance which was running in the background while I worked.  No wonder things got sluggish all of a sudden.

Anyway, the upshot is that, upon reboot, a recently connected Logitech keyboard and mouse both now have issues.  They were working fine beforehand, but now the mouse does strange things and the cursor will even move across screen when I'm not even touching the mouse... and when I want it to move it fechen won't.  Also, many of the uppercase letters don't show up when just using the 'Shift' key on the keyboard.  I have to use the 'Caps Lock' to get those letters to appear in uppercase, which is a pain in the arse for just typing a capital at the start of a sentence and forgetting to release it because it's not a habit to even use the 'Caps Lock'

Now I've plugged the k/b and mouse into 3 other machines and no they work fine, so it's not the hardware just MS's damned persistence/insistence to deliver me machine-borking updates I DIDN'T fechen need.

Worse still, I cannot uninstall the most recent updates as they do no appear on the 'Uninstall Updates' list.... despite showing up on the 'Installed Updates' list.  And worse again, the System Restore function is now disabled, so I cannot get rid of the update through normal means. The other things not working now are sfc /scannow; Device Manager; Programs and Features; Power Options and other settings.   I'm hoping a 'repair install' from disc will resolve the issue, but failing that I may have to perform a clean install and [loathe... bah humbug] start again from scratch.

Where does MS get off, forcing updates I don't need down my throat and feching up my machine? 


Comments
on Nov 08, 2016

I would be concerned you may have a virus on your computer which has done those things.

on Nov 08, 2016

If you have to do a clean install can you load Win 8 back on? I fought off the Win 10 upgrade on my laptop and my desktop and I'm loving it. Everyone is fighting with Win 10 updates and the anniversary update it seems more people are trying to fix their computers then actually using it. I feel sorry for the non-computer literate people that installed or bought Win 10 machines that have no idea how to deal with the updates.

on Nov 08, 2016

ALMonty

If you have to do a clean install can you load Win 8 back on? I fought off the Win 10 upgrade on my laptop and my desktop and I'm loving it. Everyone is fighting with Win 10 updates and the anniversary update it seems more people are trying to fix their computers then actually using it. I feel sorry for the non-computer literate people that installed or bought Win 10 machines that have no idea how to deal with the updates.

Everyone is not. Haven't had an issue with Windows 10 or the Anniversary update. I think people mess with their computers so much they invite more problems than they actually solve.

 

on Nov 08, 2016

If you're interested in real control in preventing updates for whichever (8/8.1/10) OS, Mark, although I think it's a very poor idea from a security standpoint, check this link:

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/08/improve-windows-10-with-one-click-batch-files/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e1936%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e20kh

 

on Nov 08, 2016

Island Dog

Quoting ALMonty,

If you have to do a clean install can you load Win 8 back on? I fought off the Win 10 upgrade on my laptop and my desktop and I'm loving it. Everyone is fighting with Win 10 updates and the anniversary update it seems more people are trying to fix their computers then actually using it. I feel sorry for the non-computer literate people that installed or bought Win 10 machines that have no idea how to deal with the updates.



Everyone is not. Haven't had an issue with Windows 10 or the Anniversary update. I think people mess with their computers so much they invite more problems than they actually solve.

 

I can agree with that, but forced updates are just wrong without some sort of notification. Even if Win 10 decides to update itself it should give the user an option to install it now or when they reboot their machine. Not just shut itself down without warning.

on Nov 08, 2016

Posted this earlier but for some reason it isn't here.

Maybe this will help.

on Nov 08, 2016

Daiwa

Posted this earlier but for some reason it isn't here.

Maybe this will help.

I deleted it before. That was not the link you posted before.

on Nov 08, 2016

No, it's not a virus or malware, etc.  The aforementioned issues were not present prior to the 'backdoor' updates rebooting my machine without warning.   Besides, I ran JRT [Junkware Removal Tool]; IOBit Malware Fighter and Windows Defender just to be sure.  All 3 returned clean results.

ALMonty

If you have to do a clean install can you load Win 8 back on? I fought off the Win 10 upgrade on my laptop and my desktop and I'm loving it. Everyone is fighting with Win 10 updates and the anniversary update it seems more people are trying to fix their computers then actually using it. I feel sorry for the non-computer literate people that installed or bought Win 10 machines that have no idea how to deal with the updates.

Nah, I only have two copies of Win 8.1 nowadays, and both are on my main machines.  There are a couple of remedies and preventative measures I can look into, but if those do not work satisfactorily then I shall consider Ubuntu or Mint on the HP 2-in-1.... cos frankly, I'm more than pissed off with having to fight off Windows/MS updates that bork my machine near every month.

 

on Nov 08, 2016

Island Dog


Quoting ALMonty,

If you have to do a clean install can you load Win 8 back on? I fought off the Win 10 upgrade on my laptop and my desktop and I'm loving it. Everyone is fighting with Win 10 updates and the anniversary update it seems more people are trying to fix their computers then actually using it. I feel sorry for the non-computer literate people that installed or bought Win 10 machines that have no idea how to deal with the updates.



Everyone is not. Haven't had an issue with Windows 10 or the Anniversary update. I think people mess with their computers so much they invite more problems than they actually solve.

 

No, not everyone has issues with Win 10 updates, but there are plenty who do.  Forced updates, which often times aren't even needed, are an issue that can render some PCs inoperable for some users.... and NOT everyone messes with their machines or invites issues.  I've helped a few people restore their PCs after 'update' messed things up, and none of them had a clue about tweaks or 3rd-party programs to alter 10's behaviour.  However, more than one of them has come back after the same updates cause the same and worse issues.  Clearly, forced updates are the issue here, and MS needs to reconsider its policy of forcing crap down users throats, particularly when it isn't even needed.

DrJBHL

If you're interested in real control in preventing updates for whichever (8/8.1/10) OS, Mark, although I think it's a very poor idea from a security standpoint, check this link:

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/08/improve-windows-10-with-one-click-batch-files/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e1936%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e20kh

 

Thanks, Doc, I'll look into the batch file idea tomorrow... cos now it's well past my bed time.

Same with the link you provided Daiwa.  Thanks and I'll look at it in the morning... 3.40am here now and I'm knackered.

on Nov 08, 2016

Thanks, ID.  Sorry about that, not sure how that happened first time.

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