Someplace to stash my stuff
damned walled garden
Published on December 5, 2014 By starkers In Personal Computing

I really wanted to take a shot at Google today but couldn't find anything newsworthy or damning.

However, I found the next best thing...  a damning indictment on Apple... something it oughta be fechin' ashamed of but instead is defending.

Yup, the mother-whats-its [insert expletive here] created software to delete competitors music purchased by users from their iPods and other fechen i devices.

Despicable ain't the word for it!  Try downright fechen criminal... and Apple is trying to justify it by saying it was for customers own good.

For security reasons my arse! 

Worse still, there was no explanation... nothing.  Nope, the head of Apple security treated customers like dumbarses [and probably some are/were] by saying an explantion would have been confusing... and therefore their purchases were just wiped away.

Bastards, that's all I gotta say, dirty rotten criminal bastards.

So what say you, peoples of Stardock, etc?


Comments (Page 3)
on Dec 18, 2014

starkers

What does irk me, though, are the Apple fanbois

That really is the case, and yes, they can be very annoying.  And like you, I do love to tweak their noses from time to time.

on Dec 18, 2014

Dr Guy


Quoting starkers,

What does irk me, though, are the Apple fanbois



That really is the case, and yes, they can be very annoying.  And like you, I do love to tweak their noses from time to time.

Hehe... tweak their noses, eh?  Well if that's anything like rattle their cage[s], count me in. 

Thing is, this thread was just meant to be a bit of fun... a poke in Apple's [AND fanbois] ribs, so to speak.

And why not, they set themselves up to be the targets of a bit of tongue-in-cheek ridicule.

I mean, I don't care if people own and enjoy using Apple products, that's their choice.  What I do object to is when the fanbois come across like they're holier than thou and put Apple up on some kind of pedestal like a saviour or some white knight in shining armour.  Apple is probably no better or worse than most companies out there, but it does keep a high profile with all its law suits and claims of inventing this that and whatever, so yeah, Apple painted its own target on its forehead.

And speaking of foreheads, and I know one should not speak ill of the dead, but I can't help but remember Steve Jobs in his turtle neck shirts/sweaters.  As he lost more and more hair, and the turtle neck make his head more prominent, I couldn't help but think that he looked more and more like a male 'member'  Had it been a strait jacket with a turtle neck. now that really would have been convincing.

on Dec 19, 2014

Of course not!    So do you honestly believe it was a fair outcome and treats Apple users with any courtesy or respect?

Truth is, Apple can afford the best lawyers and can out-wait pretty much anyone in the deliberately drawn out legal bullshit, so no, the outcome is another travesty of justice. 

Oh wait!   There is no justice when people/firms go up against Apple in the courts.  For mine, the judges are either piss weak [in that they can see the travesty yet still award it to Apple], or they are fechen paid for and should be thrown off the bench.

No, there is nothing to celebrate here - not even for Apple fanbois - as Apple customers will get shafted more and more as Apple increases restrictions within its walled garden and imposes prices that are not unly unreasonable but bordering on criminal.

Now you might think that Apple is top dog, and probably it is in some fields... for now, but every dog has its day and the Apple will soon fall  from the corporate tree and be left rotting on the ground.  Like any empire or corporation, Apple's time at the top cannot last and its reign is soon coming to an end...and in some respects it has itself to blame for its early demise

Put bluntly, Apple never really invented anything since it booted Steve Wozniak, so now it is running out of fresh ideas and has little or no innovation to take it into the next decade. Essentially, since Steve Jobs passed on, Apple has lost too much ground to its rivals and has almost stagnated in some areas  In fact, Apple has been on a downward trend for a couple of years and would be struggling even moreso without the support of Intel and the other companies it draws [steals] its tech from.  

In essence, Apple will find that competition in its better markets [phones and tablets] is overtaking at an alaming rate... well alarming for Apple, that is.  As it is there are new and emeging players in the phone and tablet markets, and thus, Apple's market share will fall.  It's falling now, meaning eventually it will no longer be a market leader but an also ran.  Don't believe me?  History will tell you it's inevitable that Apple is going guts up... it's NOT a matter of if.... not as long as my arse points to the ground.

For mine, it can't come soon enough, just so I can tweak the fanbois noses even more.

on Dec 19, 2014

there were no plaintiffs. there was no case.

that huge scandal you want there to be exists in your head only.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2014/12/05/whoops-no-plaintiff-as-apple-tells-court-ipod-owner-isnt-in-class-she-represents/

 

Forbes article

Bill Lerach, the founder of the predecessor to Robbins Geller, went to jail for paying his clients to appear in securities class actions

...

This isn’t the first time Robbins Geller has found itself in a fix over its supposed clients. 

 

on Dec 19, 2014

starkers

Apple has been on a downward trend for a couple of years

in the real world they do have one record sale after another and are the only smartphone company making money. (there might be one or two Chinese or Indian manufacturers that make money also)

also: http://uk.businessinsider.com/apple-has-rocketed-to-a-new-all-time-high-market-valuation-2014-11?r=US 

in the real world Microsoft's marketshare in smartphone oss went down from over 40% to 3% in the last seven years.

in the real world it was Nokia who made a huge mistake betting on Windows Phone and had to sell their smartphone business to avoid bankruptcy.

 

 

starkers

and it has great sound with the Beats speakers. 

you know who owns Beats Electronics?

 

 

 

on Dec 19, 2014


in the real world they do have one record sale after another and are the only smartphone company making money.

moshi ....that'll be partly because they have avoided three hundred million in unpaid taxes in Oz alone by working the system.

Capone was fucked by the same action.

Only difference is Apple is big enough to bribe anyone and/or everyone.

on Dec 19, 2014



Quoting moshi,

in the real world they do have one record sale after another and are the only smartphone company making money.



moshi ....that'll be partly because they have avoided three hundred million in unpaid taxes in Oz alone by working the system.

Capone was fucked by the same action.

Only difference is Apple is big enough to bribe anyone and/or everyone.

 

If computers are for art, beauty and global inter-connectivity then why are they so ugly from other manufactures or rip offs of apple designs?

Jofo its always noble to favour the underdogs in any fight and apple left that status a long time ago so there now the enemy to everyone? I went from Acer, Hp,Dell, samsung and Nokia products to Apples Macbook Pro, iPhone 5s and iPad Air. 

The switch changed my life completely and in essence i began to understand how beneficial apple is to the world. I understand sometimes it seems unfair to others to be locked out of opportunities to make a buck due to copyrights/patents and the situation where apple exploited tax benefits of operating in other countries which was within legally approved grounds. Fortunately for them it has been for this long and unfortunate for those who didn't take advantage of cost saving foreign investments. If this situation changes in the future then apple will adapt, surely.. 

Ofcourse everything that has a beginning has an end and i don't think apple is there yet so lets not deter there momentum. Jafo--there products are awesome and i believe its something we can all be proud of. 

on Dec 20, 2014

RiddleKing

Jafo--there products are awesome and i believe its something we can all be proud of.

Speak for yourself.

There is no 'we' in Apple.

They want to be an autonomous monopoly.  Nothing less appeals to them.

on Dec 20, 2014

RiddleKing

If computers are for art, beauty and global inter-connectivity then why are they so ugly from other manufactures or rip offs of apple designs?

Bollocks, sheer and absolute bollocks.  The only designs Apple has are those it took [read ripped off] from other companies.  Apple is NOT an innovator or an inventor. No, it is a technological parasite... and the more you try to make it out to be anything more, the more I and others here will hate it. Apple has done more than enough to discredit itself, but it's fanbois like you who actually make people want to hate it with your holier than thou Apple-speak. 

So no, there is nothing to be proud of.  In fact, one should be ashamed, given Apple's filthy, underhanded tactics right across the board

Okay, so Apple isn't down and out yet, but inside the next decade it WILL be.... and hopefully you'll look back on this thread, know that I'm saying "told ya so" and it all leaves this dirty taste in your mouth.

And Moshi, don't believe all the positive press Apple is getting... try reading some of the negative as well... get a more balanced view of how Apple is really faring.  And no, I'm not providing any links to Apple's shareholder revolts/apprehension/distrust, etc... or to how various world governments are taking it to task to recoup billions in unpaid taxes.  It was world news and easy enough to check on if you're at all interested.  As per your comments regarding Nokia and Windows phones, in some markets they are [or are beginning] to outsell other platforms/brands... again, it was world news and verifiable if you're interested.

So much for a fun, tongue-in-the-cheek thread about Apple....GRRRRR!!!!

on Dec 20, 2014
on Dec 20, 2014

starkers


Quoting RiddleKing,

This



You gotta be joking!!!!!   I've resisted Apple since its inception and I no doubt whatsoever I'll manage it for another 20 years.

There is but just one single solitary product of Apple's I MAY have been interested in... but given its exorbitant price tag... not a fechen chance.

And it's not that fechen good.  For the price I could certainly build a much better PC with more power, greater speed and graphics, etc... and still have change.

Nope, Apple has nothing I want and nothing I need... so resistance is fechen easy.

Hehe!!!  I am RiddleKing of Borg... and I need to get out of this Apple fairytale I'm in before the real tech world leaves me behind.

[Oh, in case you didn't know, "I am Blank of Borg" is a thread that 2of3 started a few years ago... that's where the idea for the above line came from]

You are clearly interested in the wrong Apple products. Phones and tablets and other jewelery is where its at, not computers. 

on Dec 20, 2014


there were no plaintiffs. there was no case.

that huge scandal you want there to be exists in your head only.

Actually it is called planned obsolescence.  And Apple is not unique in it.  Apple just dragged the case out until all the plaintiffs had gotten rid of their old iPods.

It was not a "win" for Apple, just a war of attrition.  Nor was it an exoneration of their practices.  As you can see, they did lose in the court of public Opinion.  Otherwise, the fanbois would not be swarming over this article trying to justify the unjustifiable.

 

The laugh is on you.

on Dec 20, 2014


in the real world Microsoft's marketshare in smartphone oss went down from over 40% to 3% in the last seven years.

Uh, when did Microsoft EVER have a 40% share in the smartphone market?  I have no doubt Microsoft has about a 3% share.  But that is up from 0%.  They are not a major player...YET.  They may be.  But they never had 40%.

on Dec 20, 2014

Timmaigh

You are clearly interested in the wrong Apple products.

What?  I am NOT interested in ANY Apple products... not any more.  Its latest desktop offering would have been interesting IF Apple's practices were not so despicable and the price were reasonable. As is, with its abhorrent treatment of Chinese/Asian workers; it's bullshit "we invented everything" and egotistical law suits against the legal owners of tech/intellectual property, I wouldn't take one if they gave it to me.  Nope, Apple can stick it up its clacker.

As for where it's at, for me that's with computers... though I do have a tablet, which acts like a computer, with its full OS [Win 8.1] and detachable keyboard... and a smart phone with Win 8.1 on it.  Neither will ever replace my desktop PC, however.  Both lack the power and/or the options.  As for jewlery, I have absolutely no use or desire for it.  For mine it merely caters to one's vanity and is a complete waste of money.... nuff said.

Dr Guy


Quoting moshi,

there were no plaintiffs. there was no case.

that huge scandal you want there to be exists in your head only.



Actually it is called planned obsolescence.  And Apple is not unique in it.  Apple just dragged the case out until all the plaintiffs had gotten rid of their old iPods.

It was not a "win" for Apple, just a war of attrition.  Nor was it an exoneration of their practices.  As you can see, they did lose in the court of public Opinion.  Otherwise, the fanbois would not be swarming over this article trying to justify the unjustifiable.

 

The laugh is on you.

Thank you, I couln't have said it better myself.  It was put very succinctly... moreover, accurately 

As for the court of public opinion, Apple is losing ground on a daily basis, and that's why it will come falling down from its top dog position and become runner up to Samsung, LG, Microsoft and various other companies.  I read not so long ago that many Apple shareholders are getting quite nervous/uncomfortable with regard to emerging trends, not to mention Apple's behaviour in some matters, and when its major investors pull their capital Apple will struggle

Now the iPhone 6 may have done well thus far [the fanbois just had to have it], but once the iPhone is knocked off its pedestal, Apple will decline rapidly and have little or nothing to fall back on, given its tablet sales have been going backwards for a while now.  So without iPad and iPad, Apple has a market share in pretty much fech all... and what a non-event that ApplePay was. 

It was supposed the be the best thing for retail since money, but what a flop that was/is, with so many major companies refusing to sign up for it.  So it's not just the court of public opinion, major corporations also have distrust, dislike issues with Apple.  Like I said elsewhere, Apple has been its own worst enemy, and its fanatical fanbois have done it no favours, either., constantly bleating its so-called virtues, whatever.

Virtues my arse... I've seen greater virtues residing in pond scum.

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